DXers Notebook - Vol. 67, No. 27 - 2 Jun 2000
David Braun
dcbraun@delanet.com
We begin this time with a follow-up to an earlier discussion of RFI:
Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@yahoo.com>: Some time back, I posted a comment where I had thought that I was getting RFI from the meter-reading transmitter from my local water company. It turns out, once I took the time to check in detail, that the source of the RFI is actually the electric meter. This is an old-style meter, probably dating from when the house was built (around 1966). We are scheduled for transmitter meters for gas and electric to be installed in a year or so, but before I contact the utility about this, I wanted to see if anyone was familiar with this kind of problem. The RFI is most prominent below 800 kHz, and virtually nonexistent above 900, and takes the form of a steady moderately high-pitched whining buzz. Thanks for any input!
Ben Dangerfield <BEN-DANGERFIELD@email.msn.com>: Try E-mailing NRC member John Harding at JHarding@epri-peac.com. He used to work for PECO and gave me good advice on my buzz problems and provided me with the name of a PECO guy who specializes in this sort of thing. John's home is in Blue Bell but he is working in Knoxville.
Russ Edmunds: Thanks, Ben! I'll do that. If he lives in Blue Bell also, he can't be too far away when he's here, hi.
More on QSL’s, continued from last issue:
John Callarman <jcallarman@register-news.com>: Who besides me has a QSL from KE2XZG-600, New York?
Robert Foxworth <rfoxwor1@tampabay.rr.com>: John I think this was WNBC-660 when they tested the Kahn ISB AM stereo mode (not on 600). If it was not AM Stereo, then it was a mode in which they phase-modulated the carrier to carry some Military teletype information. This went on for a few years and was not audible to any AM listener. I think this was done in the early 60's. It was written up in the 1962 issue of the IRE Proceedings (now IEEE). I have a letter QSL from KE2XXS which was the Kahn AM Stereo mode being tested on WGBB-1240 Freeport, LI NY. (heard from north New Jersey) and I think it was in my school days or just after. The most exotic thing I recall hearing was a 400 Hz tone and a 1000 Hz tone at the same time on 1110. Every minute one tone would break and I could hear loudly "WBT Main transmitter, Charlotte, NC" and 30 sec. out of sync, the other weaker tone would break and I could hear, under the loud tone, a faint voice say "WBT satellite, Shelby, NC, testing" Shelby was a repeater in the KFAB null to help reception to the west. I tried like anything to get a "proper" verie for this, all I ever got was an assortment of WBT postcard QSL's with no data, so one day I took one and typed in the details myself!!!! This was an interesting deal. They used chains of vacuum tube divider circuits at the main XR to divide the 1110 carrier all the way down to audio, fed the audio tone over a phone line over to Shelby and multiply it back to RF to feed the satellite xmtr, never had any phase problems that way, I believe. WBZ used to have a WBZA-1030 in Springfield MA. I have a QSL from them that says "51,000 watts".
John D. Bowker <wa2wen@juno.com>: John ..You asked about KE2XZG-600 in New York. That's obviously a licensed experimental station and I'm wondering what they were doing at 600 kHz .. particularly with WICC right up the road. Any clue about their experiments on the QSL?
Patrick Martin <mwdxer@webtv.net>: Remember WXLE-1385/1386-Canton Island-250w? That was a real toughie to QSL in 1979.
Robert Foxworth: Had carrier from presumably them, a couple times around 4 AM on Mondays in 1973 or 74, usually when I'd get unreportable traces of what I believe was 4QD-1550. Generally in mid-March at the equinox. Never near good enough to get any audio but I think if I had a Bev, I could have done it. I was in western Long Island, NY then.
Bruce Conti <BACONTI@aol.com>: The QSL discussion is making me wish I had started this hobby earlier. My QSL collection pales in comparison. I have a few nostalgic cards from the seventies, such as "WLS Musicradio 89," WEEI when it was on 590, WCFL Chicago, WHEB Portsmouth, NH, and CFCF Montreal. I also have a copy of a QSL for "Radiofone Broadcasting Station" WKAA Cedar Rapids at 360 meters, dated Jan. 26, 1925. This was from a fellow engineer's grandfather, discovered in the attic. No matter how much I pleaded, he wouldn't give up the original, so I settled for a copy. It would be great to share some QSLs from everyone on the NRC website. Perhaps they could be published in the NRC's DX News too, bringing back a version of the old CPRV Page.
Patrick Martin: I also have the old WEEI-590 QSL'd from here in Oregon. I do remember them running a DX Test that I heard. It may have been about 1970 (I haven't checked the QSL card). I remember having a very tough time logging them with KGMB-Honolulu blatting away on the channel. KGMB used to be "gangbusters" on 590 at night. Hawaiians to do not have the same signals they used to gave here. I remember KMVI-550 with 1 KW wiping out KOAC any night of the year. I still hear them, now 5 KW, but they don't have the same signal. The good ol' days.....
Pete Taylor <taytac@worldnet.att.net>: AL7XD-770 SACRAMENTO - Anyone else have a verie from this station? It was running 50kw out of Sacramento prior to being sent to Vietnam by the Army. I was at KFOG at the time so sent them some 45s (we were running Schulke's SRP EZ format at the time but pop DJ promo 45s still came rolling in!) This was in 1977. CANTON ISLAND 1385-86 - I logged this in SF but obviously heard it a lot while cruising aboard the CGC Winnebago between Honolulu and Yokosuka. I corresponded with Joyce Haas over a year and a half period and sent her (1) a cassette of music (somewhat more current than the EZ she was running) and (2) a roll of film. She sent the roll back and the shots were of the tower and various pieces of their antiquated equipment. There were also a couple of Joyce, who indeed, was a very attractive young lady, cavorting about in shorts (as much as one can cavort on a tiny island). She also sent the cassette back with an aircheck which had a terrible 60 cycle hum on it. In her last letter, just prior to the station's closing, she gave me a Honolulu address but also mentioned she would ultimately end up in Oakland, continuing to work for Global Associates. I do not know if she was related to Wally Haas (I'm not exactly a sports nut but think he owned the Raiders at one time - or was it the A's?) In my last letter I mentioned that when she got back to Oakland, my wife and I would love to have her over for a get together which would have included a bunch of Bay Area DXers. Maybe that was too much for her!
More that refers to QSL’s:
Patrick Griffith, N0NNK <AM-DXer@webtv.net>: I recently sent a report to KSVA/610 at the address in the 20th edition AM Radio Log. Mike Stark, Director of Engineering for Clear Channel in Albuquerque, responded stating that they had sold KSVA to Lifetalk Broadcasting in June of '99 and that they had resold it to Citadel Communications last month. He was kind enough to provide the following address updates: KSVA/610: 500 4th NW, Albuquerque 87102. KABQ/1350 and KXKS/1190: 2700 San Pedro NE, Albuquerque 87110. Mr. Stark also stated that he would be happy to respond to QSL requests for KABQ and KXKS at the latter address! It seems to me that many of the DXer friendly engineering people that I have encountered in the past couple of years have been Clear Channel folks. Several of them have gone way out of their way to be helpful. I wonder if they have a company policy encouraging cooperation? **Wayne I don't know how you keep up with all these changes. It must be a full time job! Let me take this opportunity to say thank you.**
Wayne Heinen <Nrclog@aol.com>: Patrick, It is a large job, but the many who forward tidbits like that last post make it somewhat manageable! Thanks for the kind words...
Randy Stewart <jrs555t@mail.smsu.edu>: That's very good to know, not only as a DXer but as a continued fan of AM radio in general... at least Clear Channel has SOME redeeming qualities, hi!! Unfortunately, faith in C-Quam AM stereo is apparently NOT one of them... aren't they the outfit that has unhooked the stereo generators at all the stations they own?
Luke Steele <ekul2891@ifriendly.com>: Hah! Glad to know they have some redeeming qualities. Their FM programming is homogenized as can be. Zzz...Also, they took over many nice smaller groups.
Patrick Martin: Come to think about it, many of my QSLs in the past few years have been from Clear Channel stations, such as KOY-1230 and KGME-550 AZ. Hopefully it will rub off on others. I do know some of the CEs letters have Ham Call letters mentioned, so at least many know what a QSL is worth.
And I’ll continue the theme of QSL’s, with the following discussion from a couple of months ago, which is related to the above:
Patrick Martin: Something needs to be done to protect these beautiful cards and letters from all over the World. I know when my time comes, I sure wouldn't want my collection thrown away.
Russ Edmunds: There already is an organization which does that, and I believe does so on a multi-band basis in the US & Canada. In fact, I believe NRC is in some way a sponsor or affiliate. But, since I'm currently having a memory failure [probably due to the prior massive hacker attacks,] I can't remember their precise name. If Paul doesn't, I know Jerry Starr is, and perhaps we can get the info on here one way or 'tother.
Bruce Conti: The University of Maryland presently houses the QSL collection of the Committee for the Preservation of Radio Verifications (CPRV). Much of the collection is on display in their broadcast museum. I'm sure that they would accept any QSL donations. I don't have the contact info at my fingertips, but will post more info about the CPRV and the University of Maryland when I come across it. The NRC also runs a program through which labels can be ordered to identify QSL collections for preservation in the case of the owner passing away.
Patrick Martin: Thanks for the info. Indeed that is great news!
Russ Edmunds: That's it! Thanks, Bruce!
Patrick Martin: Are the QSLs open for public viewing? Paul Swearingen <PlsBCBDXER@aol.com>: Pat wouldn't have access to the info printed in DX News. But once again, for all, you can order free 3-inch-square stickers from Ron Musco - P. O. Box 118 - Poquonock, CT 06064-0118, to put on your collections (well, the binder, anyway). Ron has set up a preservation program for recordings, veries, etc., which all will have access to. The "other" organization has managed to bury their collection in a library in Maryland, where almost no one now has access to it. The issue of non-access is why Ron started up a parallel collection, for all radio hobbyists.
Carl W. Dabelstein <ckdabel@email.msn.com>: The way things have become these days, perhaps we should be sending our veries to the Smithsonian for permanent storage! From 1959 through 1991 back in the Midwest, I verified 2,398 AM stations out of 2,578 logged. Thus far this season I have veried 4 out of 26 reports sent.
Russ Edmunds: Welcome to the fold, Skip! Those kinds of results many years back caused me to give up on veries. Then after I moved here, spent several years inactive and then started again, my reel taper died, and getting a new one became too big of a challenge, hi. Since I reactivated, most of my DX has been in the car, so I would've stopped taping anyhow...
Russ Edmunds: In line with the earlier discussion on the preservation of QSL's, I received an email from the CPRV's Chairman, a portion of which is excerpted below.
Jerry Berg <jberg@tiac.net> wrote: Your message on the NRC reflector about QSL preservation came to my attention. The group you were thinking of was the Committee to Preserve Radio Verifications (CPRV), of which I am the chair. You can find out more about us in the CPRV section of the <http://www.ontheshortwaves.com> website; or if you would like some information by mail, give me your address and I will be happy to send it. Roughly 60% of our 30,000 QSLs are MW. The MWers have been some of our biggest supporters, and as a result the CPRV MW holdings include the QSLs belonging to such MW greats as Gene Allen, Frank de Macedo, Bob Gorsuch, Roy Millar, Russ Mappin, Tom Farmerie, Dick Daneker, Bob Knox, Bill Prater, Tom McCormack, Warren Routzahn, Norm Maguire, John Tweedie, Carroll Weyrich, Howard Kemp and Len Kruse.
Fred Vobbe <fredv@nrcdxas.org>: Just a thought... not many of us have access to seeing these, unless we have the money to travel, and the time to sit down with someone who has them for viewing. What about posting them on the web? I'll be happy to scan the ones I have and post them to a page. Any thoughts?
Randy Stewart <jrs555t@mail.smsu.edu>: Great idea! A QSL-images page would make a nice addition to the NRC website, don't you think? I don't have a scanner, but we may get one some day soon...
Paul R Mount <paulmount@attmail.com>:"The NRC also runs a program through which labels can be ordered to identify QSL collections for preservation in the case of the owner passing away." Has this program led to any veries being submitted to NRC? If so, who has them?
Fred Vobbe: Musco has them. Perhaps we could get an opportunity to scan them for our pages?
Paul Swearingen: As I've mentioned here, and as has been published in DX News, Ron Musco has custody of all veries submitted.
Russ Edmunds: The following is an excerpt from an email received from Jerry Berg of the CPRV in response to a couple of questions I posed to him from the prior message. "This flap over accessibility goes back to the two E-mails (below) from four years ago, when the collection was housed at Christian Science Monitor HQ in Boston. The collection has since moved to the LAB, and the QSLs [collected by the CPRV - RjE] are available on the same basis as other things at a research library. You can walk in and ask to see the collection (as Adrian Peterson did not long ago, and subsequently told me that the people there were very accommodating). This year the building in which the LAB is located (Hornbake Library) is being completely renovated and turned into a "special collections" library. The LAB is slated to move into new and larger quarters there, with top-of-the-line facilities for users.
The following is regarding the GE Superadio:
Deane D. McIntyre <dmcintyr@ucalgary.ca>: On Saturday morning I dropped by a local garage sale here in Calgary AB and spotted a GE Superadio (I) with a $2 (Canadian) price tag along with a note that the switch was defective. Of course I brought it in a flash as it seemed to be in reasonably good condition. Upon getting it home, I discovered that the radio would operate if one fiddled with the switch and held it part way in. I opened the radio and discovered that contact cleaner was of limited help and that the switch was beyond repair. So I replaced it with a miniature toggle switch I had on hand, epoxy holding it in the same place as the original switch. The toggle handle, after reassembly, poked out of the top where the original switch button had been. While I had the Superadio open I touched up the AM antenna and RF trimmer caps but did not otherwise align the set. After allowing the epoxy to harden overnight, I filled it with D-cells. A cursory bandscan indicated that this Superadio was somewhat hotter than my other Superadio, so I went on a drive away from the city of Calgary with its seven 50 kW locals and electrical noise to the hamlet of Madden, about 30 miles NW, to a small campground that I occasionally use as a DX site. (The detailed bandscan Deane included at this point is not being reproduced here – db) The FM performance was also quite good. Those living in the east or CA may think that the total number of stations logged was not all that great, but the density of AM stations is rather sparse. All AM stations in Alberta in the 350 mile stretch from the US border to Westlock were logged. Who says that DX radios are expensive-$2 Canadian is about $1.30 US!
Ragnar Danneskjold <lwdxer@juno.com>: I have found them that way. It is one of those things where you have to be at the right place at the right time. Somedays are better than others, and when you get a deal like that, its one of the better days.
David Coons <davidcoons@webtv.net>: Five years ago I found a Superadio "plus" digital model in a local flea mkt. for 15$..works great etc.
Powell E. Way III <powell@conterra.com>:You'd better hoard that. Those, I hear, are RARE! I have a SR II and the Radio Shack one. BUT for the bedside radios, I have a Hallicrafters SX-62A, a Hallicrafters SX-110, and a Hallicrafters S-40B. The S-40B stays on for hours and hours when I'm in the bedroom. The SX-62A blows EVERY other radio away. I never use it at night as a go to sleep radio as the lighted dial keeps me awake. It glares in my face. The S-40B, does too, but it's a nice green glow, and it's diffuse. I have 2 Hammarlund HQ-129-X general coverage receivers. Even though they are 1946 models, they are quite sensitive, EASY to work on, and are excellent AM performers, and still [even WITH E-Bay] don't cost too much, if you find one. I got one out of the trash at a radio station.
Ragnar Danneskjold: I am SUPER jealous. I have always wanted a Superadio +. If you ever decide to get rid of it, let me know.
Bob Smolarek <radiobob@ptd.net>: It's amazing that just about everyone who owns any of the Superadio's has had problems with that On/Off push down button on the top of the radio. Both my SR-I and SR-II have new switches on them. But the main thing is that they still work well pulling in the DX. Also my Superadio-III is weird. If the temperature goes below 70 degrees or so the sound becomes very distorted. It's the strangest thing I've seen, no other radio I've ever had has done this. Also the calibration is horrible, WFAN on 600, WOR on 650, WABC on 700.
Ragnar Danneskjold: Maybe I am a rare bird. I haven't *YET*, knock on wood, had to replace a switch, but taking the sets apart without breaking them is a real challenge. It is really something that radios that old are real serious portable DX radios. The fact that it is solid state makes it possible. It really is a terrible shame that radios of. "If the temperature goes below 70 degrees or so the sound becomes very distorted." That’s a new one for me. I do have a Chrysler car radio that will not turn on unless the temp is over 0F. "Also the calibration is horrible, WFAN on 600, WOR on 650, WABC on 700." Extremely bad calibration is the trademark of the SR III's made in Indonesia. I have one made in China and strangely, the dial calibration, with fully charged batteries is dead nuts right on. The one I have made in China is even more sensitive than the Indonesian copy but not by much. Something happened to SR III when production was moved to Indonesia and it was not for the better.
Tom Dimeo <radio@ezonline.com>: Wonder if the problem could be something as simple as a speaker that has a diaphragm or voice coil that does not work well in cooler temperatures?
Pete Kemp <kempp@bethel.k12.ct.us>: 70 seems like a pretty normal temperature. A very strange place for a cut off frequency with distortion. This reminds me of the time in the early sixties when I went with a group of scouts on an Operation Deep Freeze camp out in January. I brought along a transistor radio, so could listen to the WABC tunes at night. It was so cold ... the little 9 volt battery froze up, not producing enough juice to power the radio. I had to put the unit near the fire to warm it up. Close enough to warm it up and far enough away to keep it from frying. In the end not worth the effort, as the noises from the fire just about drowned out the puny sound from the 1" speaker :)
The next items strike my fancy as an engineer…
Eric Floden <Eric_Floden@pch.gc.ca>: Edmonton has two powerful stations at 630 (CHED) & 1260 (CFRN), one of which is double the other's frequency. I can't think of anywhere else this happens. Is this a rare occurrence? What is the effect of this?
Russ Edmunds: I am sure it's not as rare as we might think, but who knows! As to effect, one effect is that CHED's harmonic on 1260 isn't going to be a problem as CFRN's signal will bury it, hi.
Niel Wolfish <niel@ican.net>: Off the top of my head, Washington DC is also on 630 and 1260. And just down the Queen Elizabeth Way from me St. Catharines' CKTB and CHSC are on 610 and 1220. And we've got CFYI-640 and CFYZ-1280, although CFYI's transmitter isn't in Toronto and CFYZ is "only" the Pearson Airport information station. I'm sure there are many more examples and somebody out there is probably working on the authoritative list right now...I seem to recall that when local station 1480-CKDX (nee CKAN) in Newmarket moved to FM a few years ago, my car radio would pick up 740-CBL's harmonic on 1480. I suppose it was always there under CKDX but I had never noticed it before.
Pete Taylor: Add Seattle, with KNWX-770 and KXPA-1540. On my bare 2010 and on many car radios, KNWX really does a job on them, too!
Doug Smith <w9wi@bellsouth.net>: Nashville: WSM-650/WNQM-1300. Bakersfield: 550/1100. Washington: WMAL-630/WGAY-1260. I've never noticed any problems from WSM's second harmonic, though I almost never listen to WNQM.
John Tudenham <w0jrp@earthlink.net>: I recall visiting Ernie Wesolowski in Omaha a few years ago and driving around he showed me the site of 590 WOW and the 1180 station KOIL was taken out by WOW when we got within 1/2 a mile .(590X 2=1180)
Bruce Conti: In Boston, WRKO 680 and WLYN 1360. Close to the WRKO transmitter site, WRKO will wipe out WLYN 1360 on the car radio. In England, BBC 648 and BBC 1296.
Fred Vobbe: "I've never noticed any problems from WSM's second harmonic, though I almost never listen to WNQM." When does WNQM have a silent period? It would be interesting to check it. Here in Lima, 1150 is very clean. however 940 does have a second harmonic at -38 dB down when on their night power.
Fred Vobbe: "I suppose that's one of the reasons that a transmitter that's type accepted at one power is NOT necessarily type accepted at lower powers!" Actually, I know why. They are using a mish-most of a power divider when they go to night power, and the impedance is *real* funky when they try to bleed off 244 watts from their Harris MW-1.
And finally some internet/e-mail update info, this from Scott Fybush’s NorthEast Radio Watch:
May 6, 2000: The Baltimore Orioles have a new radio affiliate far to the north of Camden Yards. WYSL (1040 Avon) in the Rochester market is carrying O's games this year. It's no big mystery: the Orioles are the parent team of Rochester's AAA Red Wings, and since the Wings are on the competition (Clear Channel's WHTK and WHAM), the big-league club is better than nothing come baseball season. NERW notes that Orioles fans in Rochester -- and there aren't as many as there used to be, given how shabbily the parent club has treated its longtime farm team lately -- have always been able to tune in night games on WBAL and WTOP)...Speaking of Entercom/Rochester, it looks as though that company's WEZO (950) is yielding the standards battle to Crawford's WLGZ (Legends 990). WEZO was already breaking away from the satellite "AM Only" format to lease two hours nightly to Spanish-language broadcasters; now they've also leased out morning drive. Broadcaster Bob Scott is buying the time for a business-talk show that's done live from the Crowne Plaza Hotel downtown. We're sure WLGZ doesn't mind the disappearance of format competition from 6-9 each morning...The Nashua Pride have ended up on WSMN (1590) after all; the team struck a deal to broadcast its home games on the station, with the possibility of adding road games if they can find a way to do so cheaply. WSMN's John Collins will handle play-by-play...One more note from just outside the region this week: WKQV (1550 Pittston) in the Scranton market is reportedly returning to the air after being dark for a few months. The new programming on the station will be oldies, simulcast with WICK (1400 Scranton) and WYCK (1340 Plains); expect new calls as well.
May 12, 2000: What are the correct call letters of 1260 in Westport? NERW reported last fall that the station was changing from WMMM to WSHU(AM) -- but the call change appears not to have made it all the way through the FCC. We're guessing it's part of the ongoing database problems, and we'll be keeping an eye on the situation...A call for help from NEW HAMPSHIRE: WNTK's Bob Vinikoor checks in with an update of sorts on his long-unbuilt WQTH (720 Hanover) construction permit. It seems the plans for WQTH's 3-tower array keep getting caught in hassles with local zoning boards, and now Bob's looking for some advice from anyone else who's dealt with radio-related zoning problems. Contact him at (603)448-0500 or <wntk1020@aol.com> if you can assist...The storms that blew through Albany this week knocked several local stations off the air, and when they cleared, one was back *on* the air. WABY (1400 Albany) had been simulcasting sister station WKLI (94.5 Ravena) for a few days before going silent; it's now back on with the all-news format it had been using...We're also hearing that WMVI (1160 Mechanicville) was back on the air for a few hours this week to stay clear of the "one year and you're gone" silent-station rule. Rumors of a major group purchase and power increase appear, for now, to be just rumors...M Street (which just released the ninth edition of its Directory, a welcome addition to the NERW bookshelf, despite the best efforts of the UPS guy to leave it in the pouring rain!) reports a change of format at WWLE (1170 Cornwall), from a simulcast of country WRWD (107.3 Highland) to CNN news. A sale of the station is still pending.
May 19, 2000: Boston's daytime-only urban AM station, WILD (1090), is about to join the fastest-growing urban station group in the country. Radio One, which entered the market last year with its purchase of Brockton's WBOT (97.7), is entering a time-brokerage agreement that will put WBOT under WILD's Dudley Square roof. WILD's owners, the Nash family, have fought valiantly to keep a successful music format on the 5 kilowatt daytimer in the face of competitors like Clear Channel's WJMN (94.5) and now WBOT. Despite occasional rumors about deals that would give WILD an FM presence, until now the station has remained AM-only. The deal with Radio One keeps the station's license in the hands of the Nash family, honoring Bernardine Nash's promise not to sell the station after the death a few years back of her husband, station founder Stephen Nash. It is, however, expected to allow Radio One to change the calls of 97.7 to "WILD-FM," putting the well-known "WILD" brand where most of the format's listeners now tune. As for format changes on AM 1090? NERW expects the station's music to start skewing a bit older, with more talk mixed in, but with no real change to the station's mission of serving Boston's black community. WILD becomes Radio One's 50th station nationwide...A lightning hit on the tower of WLFH (1230 Little Falls) wiped out the computers for both "Bug Country" (WLFH, WBUG-FM 101.1, WBUG 1570) and "Wow-FM" (WOWB 105.5/WOWZ 97.9), forcing both stations to run commercial-free off a pair of CD changers for a few days until things were fixed.
And, finally, I thought this was an interesting request found on Chris Coleman’s "phillyradio.com" web site (the following was dated May 28, 2000):
Kevin Fennessy and Radio Station WFBS (1280-PA, db)have an urgent critical need for a broadcast engineer/computer systems person to come to our radio station ASAP, to re-install and re-deploy our hard drive automation system. New software, new hardware, new station, new network affiliation, entire radio station has crashed leaving the owner behind the console around the clock.
db: I’ll leave the rest of the message, which included details on how to contact them and work out an agreement. Just thought that was an interesting comment on the state of some radio stations. See you in July.